Rebuild costs.

homerjay

Old School Hero
Having my orange e2 painted next week

What should i expect to pay for facing and refitting of headset and bb?

Also what do we expect the cost would be of having the rear wheel rebuilt with a different hub?

Cheers
 
Fitting a headset and bb should cost you nothing, easy jobs for the home fettler. Wheel rebuilds can cost a lot, wound £50 or so. I've often relaced the wheels myself to as true and round as I can get them, then take them to a bike shop to true, that way it only costs £5-10 depending on how close I've got.
 
Fitting a headset and bb should cost you nothing

Fitting a headset properly is not an easy job unless you've already invested in the right tools and headset presses aren't cheap. It's the one job I let my LBS do for £10 a time.
 
Re:

I could probably get the headset in. rather it be right though.

More bothered about any requirement for rethread and facing.

But I'll know if that's needed once the frame comes back from the painters.


£50 a wheel rebuild seems steep though!
 
cycletothesea":2gr6xd9w said:
Fitting a headset and bb should cost you nothing

Fitting a headset properly is not an easy job unless you've already invested in the right tools and headset presses aren't cheap. It's the one job I let my LBS do for £10 a time.
I pressed headset cups in a frame, the other day, with a makeshift headset press from the bay of E, that cost £3 or £4.

Worked just fine. One cup at a time, and being a bit careful, but all the same, took no time at all and wasn't expensive. Nor was my crown race installation tool - a length of plastic plumbing pipe with a plastic end cap (for the mallet end) and a plastic joint for connecting with the crown race.

I have got proper, dedicated tools for your removing headset cups, though, and for removing crown races (the type that's like a chunky, oversized, tuning fork).
 
Powder coat gets everywhere so on each of my builds I have had my LBS face and fit the headset (£8) and also face and re-cut the bottom bracket threads (£8).Three of my builds were Cannondales which can be delicate if you get ham fisted with them,so I was happy to pass the job over to my LBS.

I have had one set of wheels built up using my new hubs and NOS rims.My LBS charges £24 per wheel for the build plus £24/£27 to supply new Sapim DT stainless spokes,depending on spoke count.
 
He did say 'facing' the headset, which the majority of people can't do at home, unless they have the £200 odd Park tool for it of course, the same with chasing threads in the BB. As eluded to above, you may be able to knock a headset in with a rusty mallet and a window ledge, but sometimes it makes sense to use the correct tool.

London prices for the facing and fitting of headset: £30
Facing BB shell, chasing threads and fitting BB: £30
Wheel rebuild: £45-50
 
Rod_Saetan":hx0ccet9 said:
He did say 'facing' the headset, which the majority of people can't do at home, unless they have the £200 odd Park tool for it of course, the same with chasing threads in the BB. As eluded to above, you may be able to knock a headset in with a rusty mallet and a window ledge, but sometimes it makes sense to use the correct tool.
In fairness, the post I was replying to was talking about pressing in the headset.

And personally, I don't mind compromising on tools, but I don't go as far as bashing stuff around with screwdrivers and hammers.

All the same, the makeshift headset press I used, worked just peachy, and cost peanuts. Yes, I'll get a better one, but just to press in headsets, doesn't necessarily take either very expensive tools, or is expertise that only a LBS can perform. Not being ham-fisted, taking your time and care over it, and it's perfectly possible to do with make-shift / impromptu tools, that don't require just bashing the cups in.

Rod_Saetan":hx0ccet9 said:
London prices for the facing and fitting of headset: £30
Facing BB shell, chasing threads and fitting BB: £30
Wheel rebuild: £45-50
Facing may be required - but shouldn't be required for every subsequent installation. And true enough, were it actually required for one of my builds, I probably would pay a bike shoppe to do so - problem is, you hear just as many bad / mediocre accounts of people doing so - sometimes it's just worth getting the tool and doing it yourself.

I try to be as self-sufficient as possible with bike builds - partly for the flexible nature of it, and partly because I'm not that keen on paying somebody to do a mediocre job I can just as happily do in the same mediocre fashion.

Different if you've got a very good, trustworthy bike shop nearby, and are happy to accomodate the delays and costs.
 
trying to twat a headset in with wood and hammers occasionally leads to split headtubes.

Especially on lightweight alloy frames like Orange E2s

I have a home made press I use for working on chod, but when I'm working on my nice stuff, I go to the pro-level workshop I have keys for...
 
cce":6zjtur3m said:
trying to twat a headset in with wood and hammers occasionally leads to split headtubes.
Thing is, nobody has suggested bashing a headset in with a hammer / mallet - it just seems a faulty interpretation from a suggestion that home-made / improvised tools can do some of these - and let's face it, they are - simple tasks, without requiring a skilled, professional, mechanic from Halfords...

cce":6zjtur3m said:
Especially on lightweight alloy frames like Orange E2s

I have a home made press I use for working on chod, but when I'm working on my nice stuff, I go to the pro-level workshop I have keys for...
A homemade press is different from bashing / shocking cups into a frame. Depending on how it connects with the cups, it may not center as good as a proper press, but being careful, and doing one cup at a time, it hardly seems risky. It's done quite progressively - it's not like there's some point of no return like bashing it with a hammer / mallet, and percurssive maintenance.

I'll buy a better press at some point - because I think it makes alignment of the cups simpler and easier. But truth be told, I find getting the cup in the right position first, then slowly using the press and making sure it's not shifting around and is centred, works just fine.
 
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